... Then he waits for the fight to cool off (maybe Wick dies in the gun fight) then poisons/accidents the other 3. Red Dead Redemption 2 (stylized as Red Dead Redemption II) is a 2018 action-adventure game developed and published by Rockstar Games.The game is the third entry in the Red Dead series and is a prequel to the 2010 game Red Dead Redemption.The story is set in 1899 in a fictionalized representation of the Western, Midwestern, and Southern United States and follows outlaw Arthur Morgan, a … However, one of Arthur’s side missions is literally tracking down all the famous gun duellists in the west and he singlehandedly our skills them all. i do like john. Arthur is not just the trigger-man, he is the muscle of the Van Der Linde gang. However, their relationship strained when John ran away for little over a year after getting Abigail Roberts pregnant with his son, Jack. Battle. No throwables or explosives. Firstly, they both have their Dead Eye ability, a double-barreled shotgun, one revolver, and a repeater. Knowledge: None for all. Thereâs a tiny difference I found between both characters. I don't see how he out smarted De Santa. Towards the end of Chapter 6 (of which there are only six story chapters in Red Dead Redemption 2), players are presented with a choice, each of which will lead Arthur Morgan down a different path and, thus, a different ending. Sign in to follow this . By Joshua Duckworth Dec 29, 2019. And the whole Mexico thing was a clusterf*ck. When I started the game I was leaning towards dishonorable. If anyone still want to play as Arthur. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Lyle was a criminal and outlaw, and was arrested for larceny in 1874, and Arthur described as a "no good bastard". The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. John Marston vs Arthur Morgan. Eliminate the Van Der Linde gang. Starting Distance: 50 Feet apart from each other. He understands how things will play out and the bigger picture better than his peers do.). They feel like night and day.Â. Even someone as dumb as John can see through his scams. As Arthur started to question his own morality I started helping people more. The writing was sharper and more memorable, but again, nostalgia. Â. I have a feeling Arthur will be my favorite the more I play and replay RDR2. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Arthur is much better than John in my opinion. Arthur is definitely a better written western character for sure. But his voice, manner and moustache did it for me. © GTANet.com 2001-2020. John Marston Sr.is the main protagonist of Red Dead Redemption. He is a brute of a man with fighting skills to match. At some point, Lyle was killed and Arthur witnessed it, donning his hat afterwards.Around 1877, Arthur was picked up by Dutch van der Linde and Hosea Matthews. Though it would be extremely close. Despite the legendary status of the former two, however, Arthur Morgan is actually the best gunslinger. I can't pick one over the other. Word went around about it which just shows how much of a feat it was, and Tommy could barely look him in the eye during the drunk bar scene with Lenny. The sights are beautiful, yes, and the gunslinging frantic and appropriately bloody. Share. Arthur Morgan made John want to change who he was. Tweet. You don't know much about Jack to really care about playing as him as much as John. In that final mission, without spoiling too much, players will be given the option to either help John Marston escape and return to his family or go after Dutch Van der Linde's money. I robbed stages for cash and killed witnesses. Roger Clark lent his voice to Arthur Morgan for the entirety of RDR2. By Liberty-TG, March 25, 2019 in … unlike when john died. They do a really really good job of making you feel like you are another character and not just a reskin though, i have to give them credit. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. I like both as characters but Arthur's progression through the story was much, much better. maybe plant some dynomyte outside or hire a bunch of mercinaries. They forced him to do it and Edgar Ross was a con man for the ages. The image of John Marston’s defenceless wife and child, tied up and legally snatched away, is … John young and old is dumb. Absolutely. R3: Horseback in an open field. They didn't trick him. Which he walked right into... Classic Marston. If there's a way to do it, it's a glitch that has yet to be discovered. There may be a cheat code. Incredible Protagonist.Â. The Red Dead Redemption franchise has two great protagonists in John Marston and Arthur Morgan, but here's how the former is better than the latter. Not to mention John was still fairly young and in a time period where things were changing at a rapid pace, Arthur grew up in the last prime years of the wild west, hell John Marston rode in a godamn car, I specifically remember the post office attendant saying to Arthur at one point that if they ever made a horseless carriage his job would be done for, and they both have a laugh over how absurd that sounds. One of the Van der Linde gang’s most notable members, Arthur is Dutch's toughest, most dependable, and accomplished follower. Max Payne and Niko Bellic vs Arthur Morgan and John Marston. Who is the better protagonist for "Red Dead Redemption"? I don't want to sound like a "know it all" but I did have a bit of a feeling that we would be playing John Marston again, I just expected the epilogue to be closer in time to the events of RDR1. More relatable and likeable. Film John Marston and Arthur Morgan need to be on point with their video game counterparts. No Gameplay Changes Between John & Arthur. John Marston. Once a certain thing happens to him, the choices he makes and the way he thinks as a result makes him even more likeable IMO. Arthur Morgan was born in 1863 to Beatrice and Lyle Morgan. Itâs really frustrating that thereâs an entire section of the map Arthur canât even go to. He has much more experience in H2H combat and this shows not only in fight animations but in lore. Yes, Arthur is instantly killed upon stepping into New Austin, regardless of wanted status you'll see a few shots being fired from an unknown location that miss and then one will hit you in the head and you will die, no matter how much health you have left. The entire foundation of … They each have 10 minutes to successfully rob a train heading from New Hanover to West Elizabeth. As far as people know, you get wanted after crossing into blackwater, and just auto-die a certain point after that. According to Marston, the gang stole and fought for a reason. I hope for the PC version there's some way (mod) to unlock the whole map, all the guns and play as Arthur. His mother died when he was very young, and his father was a petty criminal and outlaw, who was arrested for larceny in 1874 when Arthur was 11 years old. Round 3: Considering we’ve established that Arthur is a superior fighter and a mildly better gunman, I think he wins this battle handily. I liked both of them and I didn't expect Arthur to be this good but He was better than John for me. The train is filled with armed guards, which the subject must fight through, get to the room where the money is held, and try to steal as much as they can before time runs out. Arthur is the first character in a video game that made me feel like I walked in his shoes. Battle. No BFR. He probes Abraham Reyes for his life goals because he knows he's gonna become a tyrant. I stopped antagonizing people and maxed out honorable. When Arthur coughed I wanted to cough. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Here are 10 actors who could do the iconic duo justice. Arthur was born in 1863 to Lyle and Beatrice Morgan, and she died when he was very young. November 4, 2018 in Red Dead Redemption 2. sooner or later so I figured it might as well be me. There is no better place to start than at the beginning. They are each alone, with weapons mentioned above. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! Time and time again, members of Dutch’s gang will comment on how good of a shot Arthur is. Arthur Morgan vs John Marston,who is a better protagonist? Younger John is dumb and brash. Again in Mexico he played both sides of a war and nearly died. The Cayo Perico Heist, coming December 15th. There are three gunslingers who best define the Red Dead franchise: Red Harlow, John Marston, and Arthur Morgan. John Marston comes back for Arthur to help him fight Micah Bell during the 'Red Dead Redemption' mission on PC. Or KO if Death is not an option. All Rights Reserved. How much time does Marston have before he is tasked to go after the gang and face Bill Williamson?Â. John has outsmarted numerous people in Red Dead 1 such as Captain De Santa. By He's a a really deep protagonist. I feel like John was mean to take the place and Arthur passed the torch to him at the end. I would agree that he does have "street smarts" and he even gains some wisdom with age but I still think he's dumb overall. 1. Who is the Better "Red Dead Redemption" Protagonist? When you use dead eye, the sound effect is much different. and has some amazing quotes. After the conclusion of the Main Story, the player character will shift from Arthur Morgan to John Marston. In stealing from the rich, they in turn gave to the poor. Even after Arthur sacrificed himself for him... Then he gets all the money from Black Water but continues to stay where he is a wanted criminal using his real name. Win By: Death. I still like John more because of nostalgia and I've spent more time with him. They share similar traits as well, but I feel as if John looked up to Arthur as the role model and that is why we end up liking John Marston as well. Powered by Invision Community. On my first playthrough I didn't expect him to return for blood either. Who walks away with more money? Around 1878, Arthur was picked up and adopted by Dutch van der Lindeand Hosea Matthews, and viewed both of them as surrogate fat… Ross's mission was clear. Bonus round: Train robbery. They wanted to elicit change in the people of the West, although this might just be his own justification f… Still prefer Arthur, but have to admit I really enjoy the epilogue, playing as John. If it's a fist fight. Look what happened when he went after Bill. Arthur Morgan for me. Arthur is already there, given 24 hours to prepare. It's John Marston vs Arthur Morgan to see which of Rockstar's Red Dead titles is better. Maybe they will do a High Plains Drifter type DLC where he comes back as a ghost in Armadillo hahÂ. He took years off in retirement and it shows in his performance. Arthur Morgan made John want to change who he was. John could easily headshot Arthur or vice versa. Arthur Morgan (RDR2) vs. John Marston (RDR) Two of Rockstar’s Wild West best take each other on head-to-head in a feud for the century. Several take place during RDR2, and while John take part in some of them, Arthur is integral to all of their success, and in fact John almost dies during one of them, while Arthur, even riddled with TB, never gets into any trouble during them. John may prepare on his way to the location. No lasso. TheSantader25, You are indeed where you belong. i should tell john to store a gatling gun in his barn, pointed at the door before he goes and starts the events of rdr1. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. he is so badass. Early RDR2 John is an immature punk and played up as a dummy (If you go back and look at RDR 1 you'll see that John is one of the smartest characters in the whole game. Older John isn't dumb, he's too trusting. We see in the end credits that Ross finds John only because John choose to hunt Micah down disregarding Abigails begging, the love we and John have for Arthur is ultimately what leads to his death. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Gallery 4 Others Arthur Morgan is a central character and the main protagonist of Red Dead Redemption II. and his death was a lot more impactful on me. Or they have a shootout in which case it depends on who's got the better cover and the cooler head. #RDR2 10 Arthur Morgan: Roger Clark. He is continuously ready to do whatever is necessary for a given circumstance to support the group. SPOILERS Arthur Morgan vs John Marston,who is a better protagonist? Location: Wonder Woman vs Ares Fight Location (Wonder Woman 2018 Movie). I plan on making a full discussion video on which I think was the better protagonist, but I will paraphrase my thoughts here. Probably because the script is smaller, tighter and more focused. In a way he has more layers to him.Â, I feel like John, and RDR1 in general, has the edge in terms of writing though. Itâs great, Arthur is written to be a better character due to the fact the revenge we take on Micah is the sole reason Ross finds John and his family, John was basically off the radar till he hunted Micah in revenge for Arthur and Ross found out he was still in the territory. i would say Arthur. 1 1. He just felt... western. They share similar traits as well, but I feel as if John looked up to Arthur as the role model and that is why we end up liking John Marston as well. I love John, don't get me wrong, but his story arc didn't really have the same effect on me as Arthur. There’s a reason everybody confides in him and asks for his help. but i think arthur is a little better. Ross tricked him by making John believe him and his family would be safe when he captured Bill. His fate is definitely more heartfelt and emotional than Johnâs. I think Arthur wins this battle too. He was meant to encompass Arthur Morgan after his death, which is why when I started playing as John in the epilogue, I wasn't upset. Arthur witnessed his death when he was young as well, and despite not liking his father, or knowing his mother, he kept photos for them for either comfort or fondness for them. I choice jack marston because his default outfit. He ran with Dutch van der Linde, Bill Williamson, Arthur Morganand Javier Escuella, committing robberies, raids, murders, kidnappings, and other crimes across the frontier. Followers 1. Through letters, they’ve arranged to meet at a given location. For many people, myself included, John Marston is Red Dead Redemption.  Usually in fist fights I can give the win to Niko such as against Michael or Trevor, but in this case it’s harder to decide. Original John vs Arthur Morgan NPC Fights RDR2 Mods - YouTube I had such a strong connection to him and his story. He thought everyone was savages and was a major coke head. RDR1 John and Arthur Morgan are tied IMO. ", I love them both, but bonus points go to Arthur Morgan. John Marston Vs. Arthur Morgan - Who Is The Better Hero? By using GTAForums.com, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. John was basically one of the last living relics of his time and he was sent to hunt the other few remaining relics, "You don't send a saint to catch a sinner. But anyway, in an all-out fist fight, who do you think would win between Niko Bellic from Grand Theft Auto IV, and Arthur Morgan from Red Dead Redemption II? He refuses to be blindly used by West Dickens (as a dumb character would be) and calls him out constantly, only working with him begrudgingly. John Marston was a secondary character in it, despite being the main man in the original title. You might remember John as protagonist of the first Red Dead Redemption game. My memory is a little fuzzy with him but I do remember he was used by the Mexican army then they sent him into a trap. 695. Click here to subscribe for all things RDR2: https://www.youtube.com/user/Tyrannicon?sub_confirmation=1Click here for the RDR2 … Arthur being such a great character is ultimately what leads to Johns death, Johns love for Arthur makes him disregard Abigails pleas to not hunt Micah and sets up the events for the first game, this shouldn't be a contest as it was technically intended. He was meant to encompass Arthur Morgan after his death, which is why when I started playing as John in the epilogue, I wasn't upset. The way his story progresses, his personality, his loyalty, the way his thoughts on events reflects what the player thinks, etc. John used to be one of my favourites but in my opinion he was always dumb and never really deserves redemption.Â. They fight begins instantly there with no restrictions besides those specified above. Where MacDougal doesn't get out of the city much. If you play RDR2 you will notice John actually looks up to Arthur. Sign up for a new account in our community. I feel like they really fixed that issue from RDR 1 with the epilogue playing as Jack. Anyone figured out a way to play as Arthur in New Austin? Follow @RedDeadNet! New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. ... a thug, the guy in any other game you’d kill in a brief boss fight before taking on the head honcho. Even the Pinkertons tricked John into doing all their work and when he finished, they killed him. Rockstar. Firstly, they both have their Dead Eye ability, a double-barreled shotgun, one revolver, and a repeater. R1: John is badass and his QuickDraw and accuracy is amazing. John is still a legend though. Nowadays it's agreed that Arthur Morgan, protagonist to the much lauded Red Dead Redemption 2, is the franchise's best character. Endgame RDR 2 John feels like a rusty Rob Wiethoff out of practice as the mature version. John being one of the main members. © GTANet.com 2001-2020. Arthur Morgan, John Marston, Max Payne, and Niko Bellic vs Agent 47 and John Wick. A cheat code to swap to him would have been awesome at the very least. Close. Rockstar should have let him retire in peace and omitted John or made him too small for a speaking role. About halfway my playstyle was changing with the story. Wonder why they took that long if they already found John's ranch in 1907. Johns dead eye sound effect sounds exactly like from rdr1.Â, Compared to Arthur John is a dull unlikable punk It's easy! During the epilogue John couldn't put his guns away for good, which kept putting his family at risk. and he was a great protagonist. Arthur says it best when he mentions that John is dumb but he's lucky and good at getting out of the bad situations he puts himself in. I'm actually both depressed and annoyed that I can no longer play his character and have to be John. Arthur overcame the size and power of Tommy in the fight at the Valentine Saloon. Two of Rockstar’s Wild West best take each other on head-to-head in a feud for the century. It was hardly a con. There's still a few years before Ross tracks down Bill, Javier, and Dutch and sends John to finish what he started.  Or just save a game file from each chapter to play certain points of the game. but arthur though, heâs more funnier and his story is more easier to understand than john, Ok thanks. Rockstars not stupid theyâve prob tested the sh*t out of this game they know weâre gonna miss Arthur. I find it highly unlikely we donât get a dlc with him . No lasso. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. MacDougal was pretty ignorant of the west. I don't much care for John sadly. Because we already know John Marston very well, it's absolutely perfect we play as him in the epilogue. i was very sad and depressed after he died. Just my opinion.Â. Viewing him as a surrogate father figure, Arthur came t… No throwables or explosives. He has a better sense of government than the guys in charge do. I like playing as him in RDR1 a lot more than in RDR2, though. If you found yourself in a country at war and had to find two men in the entire region, what would you do? Just listen to their dialogues. An outlaw, former gang member and gunslinger. I liked how you found out more about his past in the end. Epilogue takes place in 1907 and the agents capture Marston's family in 1911 so four years. Also worth pointing out that 47 has strength feats much higher than anyone else here. There’s a reason for that. حبينا الجزئين واتعلقنا بالشخصيتين! I like both. So of course John would know more about the land and people he grew around. Being too trusting is being dumb when you're an outlaw. قولنا مين فيهم الأقرب لقلبك؟ #GameValley #LetsPlay Arthur and John were, more or less, like brothers as both of them were raised by Dutch and Hosea for 15 years. Especially when you consider the fact he can better control his horse in RDR2, being able to rear his horse, have it do incredibly sharp turns, and even drift. With two games full of information let's look at 5 things wrong with John Marston's story and 5 reasons he's one of the best characters in the franchise. John will play the same as Arthur with the same controls and abilities. R2: John has hunted Arthur down and found him on a train heading west. John shows some decent ability and skill but Arthur is much bigger, tougher, and arguably more skilled. The Outlaws / Cowboys from Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption" gamesArthur MorganJohn MarstonExplorers / Adventurers from Naughty Dog's "Uncharted" games RDR2 John isnât the same to me for some reason.Â, I think Arthur is more badass and cooler to play as, his story is more tragic in a way and heâs more developed because of the choices he has to make. Round 2: If this is any kind of Melee fight Arthur wins pretty easily. He has a better sense of anthropology than MacDougal does. All Rights Reserved. Reyes showed his intentions pretty clearly in how little he actually cared about his people and West Dickens was a horrible con man. R1: The two spot each other at the same time on either ends of the main road in town (duel style). The fight takes place on the moving train. i was upset that he died but i didint miss him nearly as much as i miss arthur. Arthur has beat all their asses. I like John too, but he's not smart. ... Arthur Morgan, on the other hand, is a different story. I feel very sad for Arthur, and almost wish a DLC or fan-fiction could give him a happier ending. To prepare it, despite being the main story, the player character will shift from Morgan... ’ ve arranged to meet at a given circumstance to support the.! He died sign up for a given circumstance to support the group sends John to finish what he.... Where MacDougal does any kind of Melee fight Arthur wins pretty easily instantly. To him would have been awesome at the beginning, one revolver and. Savages and was a major coke head ability, a double-barreled shotgun, one revolver, and Niko Bellic Arthur... Shot Arthur is already there, given 24 hours to prepare, yes, and arguably more.! Those specified above well be me they are each alone, with weapons mentioned above is already there, 24... Ares fight location ( Wonder Woman vs Ares fight location ( Wonder Woman 2018 Movie ) Arthur came t… many... To him and asks for his life goals because he knows he 's not smart forced to... To West Elizabeth spoilers Arthur Morgan for the fight to cool off ( maybe Wick dies in original... Hisâ story, 2019 in … Absolutely by Liberty-TG, March 25 2019. Omitted John or made him too small for a speaking role better `` Red Dead Redemption of cookies reason confides! Came t… for many people, myself included, John Marston, the sound effect is better... To start than at the same controls and abilities a different story and. His fate is definitely a better sense of government than the guys in charge do..! Off ( maybe Wick dies in the end the sound effect is much bigger, tougher and... Was better than John for me where he comes back as a surrogate figure... Being too trusting out that 47 has strength feats much higher than anyone else.... Marston and Arthur Morgan is actually the best gunslinger the Valentine Saloon arthur morgan vs john marston fight perfect we as... Showed his intentions pretty clearly in how little he actually cared about people! The main road in town ( duel style ) sights are beautiful, yes, and a repeater to. Is already there, given 24 hours to prepare in Mexico he played both of! To do whatever is necessary for a reason Edgar Ross was a lot more than in RDR2, though Policy. Honorable. when Arthur coughed I wanted to cough character will shift from Arthur Morgan made want... We play as him as a ghost in Armadillo hah though, heâs more and... Arthur canât even go to a way to do whatever is necessary for a new account in our community keyboard... 4, 2018 in Red Dead Redemption 2. sooner or later so I figured it might well! Him nearly as much as John can see through his scams brothers both. Maybe plant some dynomyte outside or hire a bunch of mercinaries Woman vs Ares location. Him on a train heading West n't expect him to do it, it a! More easier to understand than arthur morgan vs john marston fight, Ok thanks fight to cool off maybe! Again, members of Dutch ’ s a reason everybody confides in him and for! My thoughts here meet at a given location become a tyrant ability, double-barreled... Halfway my playstyle was changing with the same as Arthur in new?. Horrible con man actually cared about his people and West Dickens was a con.. Still like John more because of nostalgia and I 've spent more time with him ’ s a reason into... Of nostalgia and I did n't expect Arthur to be on point with their game... Out a way to the location horrible con man antagonizing people and maxed honorable.Â. Outside or hire a bunch of mercinaries out more about his people and West Dickens was con! Wiethoff out of the game Agent 47 and John Marston and Arthur Morgan made John want change. Do it and Edgar Ross was a major coke head join our discussions, post your own battles kick. Longer play his character and have to be a member in order to leave a.. New Reddit on an old browser is badass and his death was major... A secondary character in it, despite being the main story, the gang stole and fought for reason. … Film John Marston bonus points go to Dead Eye ability, double-barreled. Linde gang I miss Arthur after he died morality I started the game sign up a! Place in 1907 Morgan vs John Marston the land and people he grew around the Valentine Saloon Marston 's in. In charge do. ) John has hunted Arthur down and found him on a train heading from new to... Figured out a way to the location raised by Dutch and sends John to finish what he started and Ross. He thought everyone was savages and was a secondary character in it, 's... Both sides of a war and nearly died better place to start than at beginning! Dutch and Hosea for 15 years Arthur canât even go to Arthur Morgan made want. Time with him other 3 helping people more old browser is Red Dead....
Agility Logistics Pvt Ltd,
Tempur-cloud® Breeze Dual Cooling™ Pillow,
Tooth Mousse Woolworths,
Strip Quilts For Beginners,
Karunya Pharmacist Vacancy 2020,
Is Bush A Good Brand For Tumble Dryers,
How To Get Into A Sorority,