I remain devastated to this day. The population of white tigers is also too small and probably somewhat inbred to realistically test this theory. When in all reality if you actually look at some if your show / working line ” well bred ” lines per say …they are severely ” inbreed ” some of them in extremely close relation . Only try something new on small part of animal at first as sensitivity issues are indivual to dog. When you buy through links on the site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Great skin and coat, awesome temperment, etc… As with any dog, problems are caused by poor breeding. Darwin’s theories of natural selection might suggest that a white tiger would not be able to breed in nature due to it’s ‘different-ness’, however, nature and reality clearly evidence that this genetic variant continues to procreate on our planet. I want my future Doberman to have the best foundation of development and training, something that I fear I will not be able to provide myself. These are not outside pets, should never be exposed to cold or heat for any real length of time, if it’s hot, keep the walks short, if it’s cold out, be brief as possible on potty outings and provide alternatives for exercising with indoor games, fetch in the hallway, , treadmills, etc. Hello to all, my family and myself have bred and raised Dobermans for over 40 years. It is a mutation and its animal abuse to breed like this because you think it’s cool . Than I think cropped or not doberman’ ears depending only from owner and his skills to stay cropped ears – this process is long. Which means they are not within the AKC breed standard. Its all about the buck and nothing to do with bettering the breed as a whole. I hope you found yourself another Doberman love. There are just to many reports of health risks, and all just so you can have one in a white color. i think that we should do what is best for the breed . Compared to intact dogs, neutered and spayed dogs had a 3.5 times higher risk of developing mast cell cancer, regardless of what age they were neutered. Our last shepherd Sebastian was so depressed he wouldn’t eat and hid in the corner. I assure u those r both dobermans. If you come across a White Dobie, don’t hesitate to give him/her a forever home. Unfortunately I am from Romania and I think it would cost me a lot more as it is also a great distance. Cleo.guarded the children from day one and would stop my wife from crossing any road diagonally it was 90 degrees or Cleo would lean on the pram or pushchair so my wife had to follow Cleo’s wishes! My black & rust male Doberman is wonderful. They need adult fosters/adopters. So whats the right dog food or treats to feed them. So if you breed your dog again, you have 25% chance of every pup to be white, and 75% chance to black. You need to remember all dogs came from the wolf and though breeding such as line breeding and inbreeding we have a wide variety of dogs some good some not so good but they all deserve our love and care no matter what. The blue and rust Doberman is a bit more rare than its red or black counterparts and is only an accepted standard color for the American variety. I have 2 dobes, black and red, and Isabella. He was born on 3/8/1918. They were individuals but at the same time each of them had the endearing ways of the Doberman breed. But we’ll admit – it’s a little difficult to see because the two colors are very similar and the contrast is very minimal. You should come to Alaska, Most of the year the environment is white white white LOL! I think the main point about white Dobermans is that they should rarely be bred from both white parents. Bottom line is that it is a mutation and more importantly it causes health issues for these poor animals! Regarding the albinism debate and eye color: albinism can be partial in mammals (and also birds, even wild ones), and can come from various mutations in the genome. Otherwise it is a very serious amputation surgery after that time. He got all the best traits of each breed but especially the goofy tendencies Dobies can have. I can’t take him anywhere without people asking if he’s a show dog. Many years ago I fell in love with the Doberman breed. good people raise good dogs. The four official Doberman colors in the breed. It does not necessarily mean that there is anything wrong with the dog itself. For blue Dobermans, this means that black or red dogs can carry the dilute gene, and can produce blue puppies when bred to either a blue dog or a black that is carrying the dilute gene. All of our Dobes have been raised and exposed to children (many small children as part of their socialization) and have done great. I think many people don’t want to admit the truth about albino dogs because it resonates with whites people having white skin which is also albinism. If I did nothing he would have lost his left eye… also there were only 3 dog ophthalmologists in the state of SC and had to subsequently go to Charleston, SC for his therapy to try and save his eye! By its first year the poor girl was blind, covered in sores from being in the sun without sunscreen and the animal got cancer in its liver and died before it was 4 years old. If he is healthy I don’t see why not. The Melanistic Dobermans have been around since Champion Rappo v.Blankenburg, registered in Germany DZ6355 AKC# 394045. During his life span never suffered from any of the health risks associated to dogs specific on either side of his family. I am an animal activist, but I still think it’s okay to cut their ears as long as it is done correctly and under anesthesia with great care taken to keep the dog out of pain and tending to the healing correctly. She lay in the floor next to him and I would catch her cleaning his face. Im hopeful this discovery leads to many more years for our beloved Dobermans! any day they dont want to break your bank every time you deal with them. The white dobie has long since outgrown the initial inbreeding through which the breed was developed,as the Bullmastiff once did. Thanks for any info. I would love to help you we had our Coco a red Dobe from 8 wks till 13 yrs when she had a heart attack. Actually, any real research will show that white Dobermans are not albino. He’s my 90lb lap dog. Boy did they whine! We now have a 1 yr old Red female Jordan and we will soon be getting a female red puppy Reagan. they are not albino their eyes are blue. As they are also referenced in Philips book as well as another book published in 1929 by William Sidney Schmidt. Take it from someone who found out the hard way. Albinos do NOT have a color gene. She’s beautiful, smart, and a very interesting colour. So learn more before spouting off. Do you know the health issues and aggression that can come without spaying or neutering? yes they are blue but that does not mean the dog is “white” it is ALBINO, there is no such thing as a white Doberman. If it has two, it bcomes white. So….should people breed Doberman Pinschers for the specific purpose of producing “Whites”? Some owners of normal Dobermans want to breed from him as he looks very good. The rust markings on top of the slate blue will have a much lower contrast than with a normal black. My female just turn 3 n we have had no health issues thus far. It’s ignorance of the worst kind. I had never seen a white Doberman before, so I wanted to look them up. I’m assuming the person who wrote this article never needs sunglasses! And ever since I’ve been sharing what I’ve learned with other Dobie fans. With how popular the black and rust Doberman is, you would think that a solid black Doberman is popular too, right? We are searching the rescues, not an easy task – they all have their own “qualifications to adopt”. I passed my Fawn off as a Weimie for most of his 13 years. It’s like saying you dont like people of colour. Katie at that point was 5 years old. As a result, this color variety of the Dobe has been unofficially called the gray Doberman as well. What does it matter what colour a dog is. Being out on the street to cause a problem or die a painful death. It is difficult to analyse why the Caucasian colour originated in humans – presumably because melanistic colouration was not particularly needed in the Northern Hemisphere of our planet. Until scientific research is done to prove they are albinoid, you all have no right to bicker like children about a dog. They’re sometimes referred to as gray Doberman. I now have a red Doberman, named Primo. I NO LONGER HAVE A WHITS DOBIE LIVING BUT WILL HAVE TO SAY THEY WERE SO MUCH BETTER WITH THE COATS THAN MOST DILUTE COLORS I HAVE EVER OWNED. They have so many health issues. So, Steele gets a bit of sun block on his nose. And she does not look her age. All 3 of us. Can you tell me how your girl is doing and maybe send some pics? Two more important terms are genotype and phenotype. I’ve had dobies of every color except fawn. I have owned numerous breeds all of my life and he is by far the smartest , funniest , and loyal dog of them all. In fact, they’re the ones you imagine when you think of these dogs – often depicted in movies, comic books and mainstream media. Maybe one of you will actually finish reading this and do some of you’re own research. Another name for the red Doberman is the chocolate Doberman. It’s a fact that #45 is a crook. That is thousands of years ago and they lived in northern Europe and into Russia. PS Spell checked by my mutt and pure bred who ran it by the goldfish. it seems like we should not make arguments to support our own particular interest . I couldn’t read your whole rant cuz I got bored …but my blue weighs 140 so your statement that they are small is false. As far as what information you’ve given, I believe there is no such thing as a bad dog but there is such thing as a bad owner. The Doberman takes its name from Louis Dobermann of Apolda. Loyal, loving, always wanting to please, and get along with other animals too. Your going off on the author of this site does nothing to change that. Some of which, can be serious and lead to severe health problems in the future. Thank you for reading our story. Also favorite Doberman color reader poll. This can lead to aggressive behavior, like fear biting. I’ll introduce myself and more than one “different” color Doberman. Having said all this, if you do find a white Doberman rescue dog or a white Doberman from a breeder with a good reputation, who does health testing,  please give them a chance. Known ailments associated with the Doberman (Von Willebrand’s Disease, Wobbles, Hip-Dysplasia) come from careless breeding. A second question- I am single with no kids, if I get married and have kids, how is the Doberman’s temperment with learning to live with more people after probably a few years with just me? My Shepherd has no problems with my Mini Pin. We are to blame for not doing research prior to getting her. We mainly have had Black, Red and Isabella colored Dobermans, although we have a 3 year old White bitch named Saint. More >>, Privacy Policy  | Terms of Service | Contact. For those just learning about Profiling, more how a breeder can determine before mating the future potential of a match. Anyone able to recommend a reputable book, or online site? If you are uninformed pls get informed before speaking on the subject. The breeding is the culprit of the problems a white may have. Deduction is usual $100 – $200, and your reimbursement 80% of your bill. Btw the title says ‘The 5 Doberman Colors And The One To Avoid’ – but the arcticle says that there is TWO we should avoid. She would come and take my hand gently and lead me to him if he was wet or had soiled his diaper. And it was stated that they were not the desired color only because they could be seen at night with them being white. in San Francisco who’s up for adoption. Wow, great to hear. ….. if there is something wrong with it, it’s not because of its color. This is where we are today. Also many lines actually carry the Z- factor gene . Probably not the answer you wanted, but I know DVM’s who will not breed once a year if they cannot come as close as possible to not reproducing these health issues to further weaken the breed. Just had her ECG and all done at just past 11 and still everything perfect. I had one that absolutely refused to use the try the dog door, and when he attempt to bite me, after multiple treats of encouragement, I just thought, the last thing I could have is having my children bitten. Hi, my name is Calin Scridon and I went to the site to see the material and the comments. Is this a serious post? This site is owned and operated by Jenco Digital LLC. I would not amputate his leg. Anyone who wants to be a breeder should want to breed for the betterment, not to make money or get a color that’s proven to not be good for the breed! Doberman Pinscher Price. Over the last 15 yrs it has become common to see oversize dobes (height as well as weight). These dogs eyes are quite large and thus produces enough pigment to lend opacity to the eye, often colouring the iris pale blue. I don’t care what harsh bio-cultural forces shaped you, but I don’t like you ya F_____g jerk. They were gorgeous animals will massive abilities and they have been evolved into the short, squat English bulldogs we know today only because of the breeding. And the markings show more as they age. It means they are subject to more possible health problems and should not be used for breeding. The point that the author was making was that they are partially albino and albinism comes with health problems. My question is how long ago did you have your dobe’s skin cancer removed, I’m just looking for some possitive info as I can’t afford the suggested treatment and we are just going to ride it out as long as we can and hoping for the best. Mutt dogs and shelter dogs can have very unpredictable behavior problems. I wonder if this is what happens with dobermanns. For centuries man has made MANY, MANY dog breeds, and so what if they were interbred? She has always lived inside out of the sun. However, the blue color can still be a disqualifier for some dog shows. Fun fact: his all time favorite breed is the German Shepherd. The AKC does register white(albino) dobermans. Wrong!! Darwin’s theories of natural selection might suggest that a white tiger would not be able to breed in nature due to it’s ‘different-ness’, however, nature and reality clearly evidence that this genetic variant continues to procreate on our planet. Read all you can about dog behaviour to understand things from their point of view. one black and one white, just like the parents (50% chance – this has twice the chance that the both-black or the both-white) – they are carriers, their white gene allel is hidden, 3.) I know I should have done my research first but I was told that she was gray. These are family Dobermans. He’s also had various moles all over his back/body that my vet and I monitor for skin cancer. 14,568 votes were collected over five years. A lot of people don’t realize, a certain amount of “in-breeding” is done all the time, with every breed of dog (or cat, horse, cow, etc…) when producing and “bettering” a specified “BREED”. Read More. I have to say that I haven’t found many things different between the two breeds except the hair. With the addition of the dilute gene in our thinking, Doberman coat color becomes more complex. I think all dobermans are very beautiful and after I learned they come in so many colors I became very interested in the melanistic black. this makes sence, but i also have to work for a living. Fact is that there are still breeders that destroy blues and Isabellas and reds, because they are from mutated genes. i did some research and the original dam did have a white and the male pup (yes male) was breed with sis litter mates to keep getting the white color. 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